Phew! They're all up and running again.
Several of them needed new bikes - is it me, or is it becoming more common to change bikes than it is to change wheels?
I know I mentioned the dastardly possibility of Contador cheating (*sharp intake of breath, surely not*) a while ago, involving motorized bikes: but the more I watch this race, the more I am seeing bikes being changed almost as a matter of course.
Is it possible that the brakes/gears etc are getting less reliable? Or, before I get shot by some bike manufacturers, are the bikes getting so technical that wheel removal can throw other components out of alignment?
I did read somewhere yesterday that Astana (or Katusha, possibly) were having to send home for more bikes and more parts, as they'd written off so many already. At at 8k euros each, hmm, well, let's hope that the sponsors are paying for them.
I also read a slightly scare-mongering article somewhere today, which suggested that the lightweight carbon fibre bikes which are now popular amongst pro-cyclists are less able to absorb impact than the old steel ones, and could be contributing to the general feeling that cyclists are going down harder these days. Anyone have a thought on that?
Talking of which, I received a strange suggestion via email today - you are most welcome to email me, by the way, if there are things you wish to say but don't want to put up as a comment. I don't check my mailbox every single day (*blushes guiltily*) but I generally pick messages up every couple of days...
Anyway, it's been suggested that I am doing Blogging "wrongly". Apparently I'm not supposed to answer back in the comments section, that's for you lot to use: if something needs an answer, I am supposed to answer it in my next blog entry.
Any thoughts on that? I rather like the to-and-fro of the comments column, personally. And this is intended to be an interactive blog - you know, you ask questions, I
Which reminds me, as we seem to be slightly losing sight of OGL, here is what he looks like:
Still a tiny hint of a moustache, Andy my pet: when shaving the legs (and yes, we can all visualise that Very Clearly Indeed thanks to Susanne) don't forget the upper lip.
Oh, must tell you (*jumps up and down with excitement*) this tiny thought on the subject of Andy's girlfriend, Jil (oh blimey, I've just ruined this blog again for search terms: I kid you not, the post which I foolishly entitled "Andy Schleck you-know-what 2011" has received 9 times as many page views as any other page! Where was I? Oh yes: Jil.).
So, we all speculate from time to time what it must be like to go out with
I was reading about "the girlfriend" of "a cyclist" - it would be a bit mean to give names - who didn't know a thing about cycling when she was introduced to "the cyclist" by a friend who at that time trained with him.
She's now trailing around France with her parents, waiting for odd moments to meet up with him. She says that after the race they are piled on to the bus and taken off to the next place, so there's not much chance to meet up after the race.
And she rather wisely says that she doesn't like to get in the way at the start of a race. So she grabs a few moments with him when she can - and says she's managed to sneak in a couple of times. (That sounds fun!) (And rather reminds us of the *sighs gently* Monza video. Remember Andy showing "attitude"? Sitting on the stairs outside the room because Frankie's girlfriend was visiting him...)
So what's her take on being part of the Tour? Does she adjust his brake blocks for him? Check that his saddle is level? Spray that stuff on his cleats? No - she cheerfully admits that she doesn't know one end of a bike from the other, and says “I don’t have a clue – I keep as far away from the bike as possible."
After spending a day or two topping up her tan - her words, not mine - she said “But on Tuesday in particular it was pouring down and I was on the side of a mountain with cream shoes. It was a bad idea, I don’t know why I had cream shoes on the side of a mountain.”
A-ha-ha neighing! Sorry, shouldn't laugh, these things always lose something in the translation, ("She has to live with this for the time of my career.” comes to mind) but she does seem a little, er, unconnected. I would have thought that to be the girlfriend of a rising star, you need to put in a bit of effort to help them, wouldn't you?
And what does this have to do with Jil? Not a lot, I was just wondering how involved she is: has she managed to fix it so she can follow the Tour? Does she manage to see him now and again? Does Frankie have to sit on the stairs, in his turn?
Not terribly exciting stuff, I know, but it keeps me off the subject of French Cars and what should be done to their drivers. Latest news is that Sky are suggesting that they won't sue the driver in order to avoid offending ASO, who were kind enough to give them a wild card invite to the Tour last year, before they were a pro team. Uh? I mean, grateful, yes, but grateful enough to overlook a French driver knocking over their rider? I think not.
Oddly enough, no-one in the cycling press has pointed out that the French TV car took out a Spaniard riding for a UK team, and a Dutchman, leaving the two Frenchmen (and another rider) perfectly unharmed.
I can't imagine that any of you missed it, but here's the car hitting Flecha:
The plot appears to be thus: the car contains personnel from French TV: not actually filming, just what they call "support personnel" ie guests, visitors, managers having a nice day out, you decide.
The car was told not to overtake the riders, but to make way for the Europcar team car which was on it's way to the front to give Voeckler a water bottle.
Instead of doing as it was told, this car pulled out to overtake the breakaway, then swerved into the road to avoid a tree growing in the verge. They could have braked: they could have waited: but no, too important to wait, they drove on, swerved out, hitting Flecha with the wing of the car thus knocking him heavily to the ground, and Hoogerland then went into the back of Flecha and was catapulted a couple of feet into the air and then into a barbed wire fence, at some speed.
And this is what remains of poor Johnny Hoogerland after he was catapulted through that fence:
33 stitches, Schlecklanders, 33 stitches. And a rest day spent mostly lying in an ice bath, apparently, ugh. Oh, and he had to have a new pair of shorts in order to finish the race - now, I know these boys aren't particularly body-shy, but I wouldn't fancy having to strip naked by the roadside with camera bikes, helicopters, cars etc all cruising slowly past, gawping. And it wouldn't be a quick strip and change, would it, with all those cuts?
Flecha, meanwhile, is worried that his elbow is damaged, but he's determined to carry on the race.
Darn, I didn't mean to get started on that subject. I think you can tell that I'm pretty cross on the subject, and although I have taken Team Sky's words to heart, I have made my decisions:
1) Sack that driver from the Tour. Check.
2) Sack that driver from French TV. Check.
3) Ban all "jolly" cars, leaving just team cars, medical cars, commissaires, neutral service cars, ditto bikes plus camera bikes, and the yellow bike with the chalkboard. All others banned.
4) Give all drivers a good talking to and remind them of who is important in this race: all together now, "THE CYCLISTS"
5) At the very least, instruct all cars to take extra care. Check. I think they've given out instructions that all cars must be a certain distance away from the cyclists - well, that's a start. I think it's "two minutes away from the riders where the roads permit."
And finally, 6) Sue/prosecute that driver. Dangerous driving, and not stopping after an accident, for a start: had they been drinking?
Stop! Enough! Right.
Well, so much for botany homework, I really must stop now and do some, so here's a nice photo of Andy who didn't want to get wet getting from the team coach to the hotel, so he improvised a coat:
Little Black Riding Hood was the best comment.
Bless you Coug!
ReplyDeleteAfter fruitless searching for some information about the LT crash...and finding only hints and nothing except Jensie saying all are OK. Which, love ya Jensie, but OK to him could be big owies to OGL or Frank! Anyhow, thanks for talking about it! I was thinking maybe it was being hushed. Does anyone know how they managed to get caught up in this? Are they really all OK?
I've wondered about the massive numbers of bike changes - and wondered even more after reading that the powers that be were looking at all of Conti's bike changes at the Giro. And he looked like there was a motor - hardly broke a sweat!
We know LT wouldn't do that - and I have noticed that frequently with just a wheel change the rider ends up having to go back to the car again for adjustments on the brakes - so new bikes just might be quicker all the way around.
I also think this French TV car situation, which I admit has me absolutely furious..just looky loo's and PR really - will instigate some changes because everyone saw it on the news it seems - having that follow the horror of Jani, Horner and then Vini, all got lot's of press coverage to non-cycling people - the organizers have lot's of mud on their faces as people accuse them of creating bloodsport intentionally for money. Bet you are dead on about possible drinking and I also think the speedy drive off may have something to do with who was in the car. I'm just sayin - it was a hit and run and the driver should have been arrested. It's not like the driver could have thought they'd get away...but I bet there was a "drop off" before the final exit. The conspiratorial part of me finds your observation about who got taken out by the French car very interesting....
Here is my idea for restructuring the tour:
25 Teams invited - based on Classic's and Tour results
4 riders on each team (climber, sprinter, time trialist/general support, young new guy)
Total riders 100
Team support, Medical,Ambulance and pre-certified camera bikes - ONLY.
Advantages:
Less crowding - fewer crashes
Less speed - fewer crashes - and less danger for the entire peleton.
True focus - the best of the best competing
No massive lead out's for sprints, less congestion at front of field - mano a mano for sprint or stage wins
Public satisfaction - the Big Guys (real GC contenders) are who they want to see anyway
Less expense for teams.
Tremendous incentive for those in the earlier races of the year determining the best of each team, lessening this race to train business (if you race, you should be there to win, not to train, sorry OGL).
More experienced riders than not.
Easier on doping control expense.
Less medical expense.
Better communication with smaller teams.
Disadvantages:
I can't think of any other than sadness for those who aren't top of the field and aren't chosen.It does lessen the surprise breakaway with unknowns, maybe.
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I do think the high tech bikes are not about safety - it's about going faster - and we are seeing the results. Taylor Phinney crashed in a time trial awhile back - his bike basicly shattered and his body hit the building....that wouldn't have happened on a less high tech bike, and he's not a small guy.
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And in closing - I think this is your blog and you make the rules. I like the additional commentary - and it is "food for thought" shall we say to inspire continuity when you do your next post.
I really appreciate this blog and am so grateful I found it - and part of the attraction to me was the easy conversational flow of it all.
You do it your way Coug, it's working well!
BolderEL
I am DELIGHTED that I found your blog; I am completely obsessed with the TDF, many of the cyclists, and ANDY in particular! Keep the great posts coming.
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I've seen plenty of blogs where the owners engage in dialogue in the comments! Do what you want: it's your blog!
ReplyDeleteCoug, is this person actually reading the comments section? I fear that you wouldn't be able to legitimately call this a cycling blog, if you were obliged to respond to my random, inane comments, e.g. Schonachbach clocks, and Edward Gorey.
ReplyDeleteThere's no wrong way to blog.
Good luck on your botany exams!
Incidentally, Nim and I have coined a name for Andy's makeshift Mackintosh: The Glad bag reversible garbage poncho.
Well, we have a clear voting majority: four for (that includes me) and one against.
ReplyDeleteSorry caller, the conversations will continue!
(I did wonder if they just didn't want to have to click on "comments" each time....)
BoulderEl, yes, odd that it hasn't had any coverage, but on the L-T site they do say that no-one was hurt, although they needed "some" new bikes. So it must have been more than a casual crash, if you see what I mean. Problems occurring so early in the race don't seem to get any TV coverage, although you would have thought the cameras would be there????
Ha ha, glad you like my conspiracy theory about taking out the non-French riders! Spread it around!
Your ideas for the restructure are interesting: smaller teams are worth considering, I wonder how long 9 has been the standard number of members? (*frantic typing in google - hmm, lots of interesting info (puts aside for later post) but not the info that I want*)
I suspect that 4 is too small a number for such a long race, to allow for all the injuries/illness, but maybe 7 would be better?
Personally, this year I'm getting a bit tired of the sprint finishes, it seems that we have 6 hours of racing but all anyone wants to see is the last minute, where exhausted men over-strain themselves. The commentators are informative and amusing for the whole of a day, but at the finish line it turns into the gabble of a horse race "and it's two furlongs to the finish line this one is in the lead but that one is coming up hard on the rails" etc.
The ASO have had a lot of criticism already about trying to make the race "more interesting" but in fact just making it more dangerous. So what do we think makes a race interesting to watch?
For my money, it's the unexpected on the way: the Costas and Hoogerlands, winning stages and jerseys, the way "little people" can come to prominence - JVS being a good example - so it's not just the favourite all the way (Conti/Giro/yawn).
The "danger" part is, it seems, more from poor marshalling (road furniture, blind bends) and too many vehicles, than from overcrowding: in most stages, you don't get the whole 198 in one large peloton for more than a short distance.
Perhaps this was the point of the intermediate sprints being bumped up: it splits the field, thus making it safer for the riders, and increasing the interest period for all the towns and villages that it goes through. It gives us more breakaways (which are always interesting, even the "TV breaks" ) which is a chance for the lesser riders to shine.
Maybe they should have a split start, instead of a bunch start? (*sits back with satisfied smile, waiting to see what other people think of that crazy idea!*)
Coug
PS Hi, Cyclekat, welcome! Glad you enjoy it. And thanks Amanda, you are quite right, it's my darn blog!
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Hey Figgy! We overlapped! So, the "Glad bag reversible garbage poncho" huh? Good name! Love the idea that you and Nim actually discussed it!!!
ReplyDeleteCoug
Rushes off to eat breakfast....
I know that some bloggers never answer readers' comments but, personally, I hate it when it happens. If things go that way on a blog, be sure I'll never comment there.
ReplyDeleteWhy should I take some of my time to write something on a blog if I'm not sure to get any answer back?
Your blog is so wonderful also because there's a continue dialogue between you and the readers, a dialogue that makes the readers feel that their opinions are important to you.
On the other hand, I think that the bloggers who don't answer the comments of their readers don't show any respect for those who spend some of their time writing something about their posts.
Readers are an important part of blogging and they do deserve answers to what they write!
Hi, Coug, keep commenting! If you made a new post each time you wanted to comment on something I think your blog would become disorganized and the dialogue would be difficult to follow.
ReplyDeleteBolderEL, I see your line of thinking, but I personally wouldn't like a team of just 4 riders. Each rider would be looking out for their own interest and I like the team aspect of cycling. I also think this would leave some countries with less or no representation in the peloton and that could result in even lower viewership. I doubt the sponsors would be happy, less visibility for them.
Does anyone know if the drivers have to have any type of certification? We all know the UCI likes to make money on certifying things, and this could actually make a difference.
Each rider and their team makes decisions on their equipment, they chose faster tires at the risk of not being able to break as well or puncturing. Maybe they'll see the benefit of staying on their bikes and in the race and chose accordingly? Just my opinion based on the stuff I read, I'm by no means an expert :)
Hi Fede! I know you love your commenteers as much as I do! To me, that is nearly the whole point of blogging -it would be awfully lonely to do it without any comments.....
ReplyDeleteHey Emily, you are quite right, I go off at a tangent quite enough as it is, without having to do a new post every time! Possibly that was a reaction to my comment being so long that I had to split it into two parts (oops).
As far as I know, tyres don't make a lot of difference to cyclists. The main reason is that generally, tyre enhancements are either softer rubber for more grip, or carefully-designed slots to move the water away faster, for more grip in the wet.
The amount of rubber on the ground for a cyclist, when travelling at speed, at any one time, is about the same size as a fingernail.
So, not much point developing fancy tyres!
Regarding driver certification, oh blimey, the only answer is going to be in the UCI rules, and I just don't have time to trawl them at the moment. Perhaps some other kind person will be prepared to have their soul sucked out on our behalf? (In case you didn't know, reading the UCI rule book always sucks out my soul, leaving me drained and wide-eyed for days...)
Today's stage of the Tour seems to have been positively dull - thank god!
Coug
Coug,
ReplyDeleteI actually did think about staggered starts and teams racing solo - like team time trial for the whole race......
I dunno....but something needs to happen.
I love this blog! Best discussions ever! Thank you all!
BolderEL
Coug, just keep on going. I love it.
ReplyDeleteFede, you just said it all.
It seems less dangerous bikes would mean going back to disc brakes and aluminium. (I heard specialists making good points about those points.)
TdF tv is taking a lot of reading/answering-blogs-time from me, so I don't react as much as I would like at the moment. But I would miss you all a lot without those cycling blogs.
Coug,
ReplyDeleteI think your blog is fine just the way it is. Those who don't respond to comments might as well be writing an essay or a magazine article. The whole point is that it is interactive.
I don't comment as often as I would like to, usually because of timing. I usually check Eisen Andy just before I go to bed at midnight and it's too late then - have to get my beauty sleep. By the time I get back to it, either someone else has said what I wanted to say, or the conversation has moved on.
I don't know anything about the technical stuff, so can't comment on bike safety, but I have wondered about the helmets. There seem to be so many concussions and head injuries, I wonder if these new lighter, cooler helmets are doing the job. There is so much talk about head injuries lately, especially in hockey. (I live in Canada you know.) Many retired atheletes are talking about the long term affects they have had, both physical and mental. Several have said they plan to donate their brains to science for study.
By the way, I agree with BoulderEl's comment about racing to win, not just training. I think it is disrespectful of the rest of the team, the race organizers, the fans and the other riders. Imagine beating Andy Schleck in a race, only to have him say he wasn't really racing, just training. If they want to train in a race setting, they should divide the team into squads and race against each other for a fun team prize or something.
emjay
Hey Emjay, that's an interesting idea: I was about to reply with Frankie's comment that there was only so much training you could do on "normal" days, and that races provide a level of pressure/speed/endurance/tactics/use of road that you just don't get while out training.
ReplyDeleteI, too, used to grumble about riders obviously not putting in a great effort, or about sprinters dropping out after a few days. But then I came to understand that to win something as big as one of the grand Tours, you need to work up to it, which includes (unfortunately) using some of the smaller races as training.
But the idea of racing against another team: now that's an interesting idea. Racing against your own team-mates wouldn't do it - you'd never be quite as free with the elbows, would you? But if teams got together for practice races, well, that might do the trick.
And think what fun it would be to go along and watch! They'd need spectators, for the authentic sounds and to be "obstacles" which would need to be avoided, so they might invite us specially! (oh dear, going into fantasy now.)
Regarding helmets, I think they're pretty amazing, really: considering how many riders hit the deck in any race, there are remarkably few head injuries. Just compare the number of concussions to the number of broken bones! When I rode horses, we had to wear enormous heavy, ugly, make-your-head-sweat-my-hair-will-never-be-the-same-again helmets, and there were still any number of head injuries. I'm pretty impressed with cycling helmets.
Coug
Much Encouraged And Carrying On