Thursday 14 March 2013

And you believe an unknown Frenchman?

 "Andy Schleck drunk?"

Lots of horrible comments on the forums this morning, concerning a Twitter comment from some unknown Frenchman, who said that he met a bloke in Munich who was wearing a Leopard-Trek jacket and was staggeringly drunk.

The (anonymous) blog Inner Ring report it here, if you want to read their version.

You'll note that their version is clearly marked as "their translation" and we all know how details get lost in the translation, and they are basing it on a Twitter entry - and we all know how they are honest, and accurate, right?

Honestly, it doesn't seem like much of a story.

My opinion? I don't think Andy would be walking around in his old Leopard-Trek clothing. I think it is much more likely that one of the thousands of fans who bought the old kit two years ago is walking around wearing it, getting drunk, and maybe even boasting that he IS the real Andy Schleck.

And even if it were Andy (unlikely), then why exactly is he not allowed to get drunk, in a hotel/airport, when he is neither racing nor at a training camp? After the year he's had.... who would blame him?

Update at lunchtime: (I don't normally get time to check my computer at lunchtime, but today..)

This makes me spit: Wort.lu had the nerve to print this:



Let me get this straight - someone told one of their reporters that someone had made a comment on Twitter, they took a screen shot of it, and they call it a "report"?

They think it's worth including it, as a story in their newspaper: an unsubstantiated social network comment from some unknown French bloke, who is "said" or possibly "reported" to be a French politician - my, that just makes him so trustworthy, doesn't it?

There is no confirmation that it was Our Andy, there is no indication that the Frenchman in question even knows anything about cycling - would he actually recognise the real Andy Schleck if he saw him? The Inner Ring story, mentioned above, quotes this muck-stirrer as describing Andy as having just lost a race in Italy.

If he were a cycling fan, he would know the name of the race.

And cyclist don't actually "lose" races. They just don't win them.  This may seem like splitting hairs, but it's not: if you have two people in a sport against each other, then one can win and one can lose. But not in a sport with multiple participants, otherwise you would say that Jensie has lost just about every race he's ever been in. And that would hardly be a fair reflection on his career, is it?

You could say that if two riders were neck and neck, then whoever came second would have "lost out" to the winner. But you wouldn't say he lost the race. Especially if, as in this case, there was no expectation whatsoever for Andy to win it, he was just there to get some race miles in his legs.

Andy himself said, of the Tour, er, what was that quote? That in previous years he had not won, ie he had done his best but wasn't quite good enough:  but in that year, he had lost it. Meaning that it was within his power to win, but he had not done so - due to the Prologue, as I remember.

 My point is that any cycling fan would not use that phrase - "he just lost a race" - which lends weight to my suggestion that this French bloke may not actually  know what Andy Schleck looks like, enough to recognise him in person, especially if the person was staggering drunk at the time.

And I think it is pretty disgraceful for a Lux newspaper to report it as fact, having not even bothered to contact Andy or his family for a comment: we don't even know for sure if Andy was anywhere near Munich that night - oh, won't it be funny if he turns out to have been elsewhere? - and why does a Lux newspaper want to be so mean to a Lux person? I can imagine some other continental newspapers being happy to print bad stories about him, but his own country?

That's pretty low, don't you think? What do they hope to achieve by it?

12 comments:

  1. I know you must be disappointed but it appears this French politition is a big fan of cycling and has even written about it on his website. Sorry.

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  2. But that's even worse! If he's a fan of cycling, why does he think that he should tell a story on some social networking site - assuming, of course, that the account really does belong to this French politician - about someone in his favourite sport?

    If he'd taken a photo of this "drunken Andy Schleck" and sold the story to a newspaper, then at least it would be a valid, if rather low-class, story.

    But for Wort.lu to repeat a Twitter comment as though it were truth is just despicable.

    And I repeat: even if it turns out to be true, why, exactly, should Andy not get drunk? He's not racing, he's not at a training camp, he's had a crappy year, and come on, be honest, he's not exactly a hardened drinker, is he? It would probably not take very much alchohol to have him staggering drunk.

    Andy: (staggering about and singing) "Shoooww meee the way to go 'ome,"
    Jakob: (rolls eyes) "Honestly, three beers and look at him."
    Andy: (flings arm round Jakob's shoulders) "You is my fweeeendie! Gi'ss a kiss!"
    Jakob: (tries not to smile) "Come on mate, let's get you home."
    Andy: "I is going 'ome! Less get in dat lift.."
    (he breaks away from Jakob and rushes to the lift, pressing aimlessly at the button panel.)
    Jakob: (laughs) "Oh all right, go up and down a couple of times, then you are going home!"
    Andy: (mutters to himself) "He izz so strict. Go home. Go home. Press button. Go home."

    Coug

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  3. Ha, French politician apologises:

    http://www.wort.lu/en/view/politician-apologises-for-andy-schleck-facebook-post-5141fe15e4b0246d64a9b240?utm

    I note that Wort.lu don't bother to apologise for giving publicity to what was merely a tweet, not actually a proper report....

    Mind you, I note that the Frog isn't saying it didn't happen!

    Coug

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  4. Your conversation between Jakob and Andy made me laugh out loud.

    I agree with you, I think it is very low of the politician to share such stories with the rest of the world. If he's such a cycling fan, he should know that Andy is in a vulnerable place right now and certainly doesn't need things like this.

    And "adding that he has admired the cyclist for years" makes it even more stupid. Then he should have pushed the right elevator button for Andy and kept his mouth shut!

    Inge

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  5. Hooray for Inge! *waves Schleckland flag *

    That's exactly what I was trying to say! Any cycling fan should not have smugly put this on social networking, they should have been more respectful of someone who is going through a really hard time.

    Kim Andersen leapt to Andy's defense in a Danish newspaper - drat, I don't have the link to hand - and (bearing in mind that I used Google translater - said that Andy denied it. And that he, Kim, was "crazy irritated" with stories like this galloping around the world in such a short time, with no substance to them.

    I am obviously going to believe Kim and Andy over some random French politician.

    I am fully prepared to find out that Andy might have had a couple of drinks, but was not "falling down drunk" as has been suggested: but I am also fully prepared to find out that this Frenchman was mistaken - I can't imagine any reason why Andy would be walking around in old Leopard Trek clothing.

    Interestingly, there is nothing at all about it in the cycling news this morning!

    Coug
    Proud to have Inge on the Schleckland Ship

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  6. Huh, I see that Mr Becca would sooner bellieve a random French politician's social networking comment, rather than speaking to his own "family friend" and employee about it.

    http://road.cc/content/news/78407-radioshack-leopard-owner-puts-andy-schleck-last-chance-saloon-after-claimed

    Talk about lack of support... poor Andy.

    Coug.

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  7. Aw, thanks! Very happy to be part of it!

    How come I am not surprised by Mr Becca's comments? That man is world champion in making not the smartests comments...

    Happy to read Fabian is very supportive:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cancellara-ready-for-milan-san-remo-showdown

    Inge

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  8. You're leaving me in suspense here! So did Jakob get Andy home after his elevator rides or what? What happened next??? *wheeeeeee* ;o) -Kat

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  9. Oh, I think they managed to get back to their rooms safely. On the way they met a bunch of fans in (old) Leopard jackets, and signed autographs. Presumably the fans went on to the bar, and got really drunk, and one of them got seperated from the rest, and had a lot of trouble getting in the lift, not helped by a snotty French bloke who sneered at him for being drunk...

    Coug

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  10. My heart just goes out to Andy so much! I feel so bad for the kid. He's had a very right couple of years. Love, death and injury change a person. I don't care if he ever throws his leg over a saddle again. I just want him to be happy and have a good life.

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  11. rough - not right...............................oopsie

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  12. We know what you meant!

    And we all agree.

    Coug

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