Monday 28 January 2013

What is it, with these former fans?

There is a very strange phenomenon amongst sports fans: first they love and worship someone, then when that person, for whatever reason, no longer wins, or scores, the so-called "fan" turns against them, derides them, boos them, and tries to turn everyone else against them.

We've all seen this in action - just look at how many people on the cycling forums were being really, seriously abusive to Andy and Frankie last year.  And to Contador the year before. And to Phillipe Gilbert last year, in the rather disappointing follow-up to his incredible 2011 season. Bradley Wiggins got a lot of the same stuff last year - up until he won the Tour, ha ha - and I confidently predict that he will fall for a good share of abuse this year, as he is almost by definition not going to be able to be as successful this year as he was last year.

Why do they do this?

LLB and I have discussed it at length, year after year,  and our conclusion is that most of the "trolling" and abuse comes from disappointed former fans.

You know, the ones who were shouting "Allez Andy!" the loudest in 2010 and 2011, but then suddenly changed their tune.

They spent all their time telling their friends "Oh yes, Andy Schleck, [or, insert name of sporting person] best thing since sliced bread" but as soon as Andy [or whoever] fails to perform in any way, their friends are jeering at them and saying "Pfff, got that wrong, didn't you?"

The correct response, the adult and mature response, is to laugh it off, and inform their so-called friends that every sportsman has good days and bad days, and that missing one podium is not the end of the world.

The incorrect, immature, and trollish response is to feel that [insert name of sporting person] has let them down personally, has made them look a fool in front of their friends, and therefore deserves to be abused on blogs, forums, and Twatter.

To me, people who behave like this are silly: rather stupid: and clearly not worth listening to: they change their allegiance whenever the wind changes direction, so anything they say really isn't terribly credible.

Mostly they can be ignored: these days I rarely bother to read the cycling forums - although at present, of course, it is all Lance, Lance, Lance, which at least takes the pressure off of Andy and Frankie! - as I find them unedifying.

(For the benefit of non-UK readers, ie slightly more than half of you lot out there, "edifying" means something that leaves you better informed, uplifted, encouraged: unedifying is something that leaves you depressed and generally worse than you were before. Therefore not worth reading.)

I don't read the internet to be depressed at the stupidity of other people: I don't need to see how aggressive people can be, I don't need to read their bad-tempered and spiteful outbursts.

So I choose not to.

Here, we admire and respect our Schlecks: we sympathise with their failures, we commiserate with their bad days, we jump and down and squee when they win, we go "ooo!" at nice pictures. Sometimes we tease them a little,  and we sometimes like to make up funny stories, or funny captions, about what they are doing.

This is what you might call ultimately edifying: here in Schleckland we are soft and fluffy, not hard-edged and spiteful.

So we really don't need silly people coming along leaving unpleasant comments.

Not because we are "not man enough to take it" but because there are plenty of forums out there that bash the Schlecks, and here in Schleckland, we prefer to praise and admire them. If anyone reading this thinks "oh dear, what a bunch of gooey little girls," then please, move on. Go on, just click on "close tab" and go away.

This includes our latest silly person, who appears to be calling himself after a footballer - mate, why on earth are you reading about cycling if you are a football fan? -  who left a comment thus:



What an odd thing to say!

OK, our "Mr Torres" is clearly not an Andy fan, so what on earth is he doing reading this blog in the first place? Ah, he must be one of those Former Fans.  And he's not exactly over-bright is he -  Frankie is not banned,  LADA won't even be issuing their conclusion until the 30th, and it is highly unlikely that they will ban him. So this comment is factually incorrect in that respect. It is also highly unlikely that Andy will never again be a competitive rider. He's been out for the best part of one season, with a major injury, and he is, after all, only 26 years old. I doubt that Mr Torres can see into the future. And I already support Team Sky, did you not read my race reports from the Tour of Britain? Did you not read about me going "ooo!" at Luke Rowe? Did you not catch the references to my home-made Sky flags? Really, Mr Torres, you are wrong in just about everything you have said.

And as for suggesting that we should change this blog... pff! Get lost, matey, we are here for a reason, and that reason is to support Our Andy. Through thin, as well as thick.

As they say:

"A true fan is not one who was there at the beginning, a true fan is one who was there until the end."

So, this comment is clearly from someone who is not an Andy fan, not on our wavelength at all, and is therefore  not of general interest to us.

So I deleted the comment.

Today, they made another comment! How sweet, they really, REALLY, want to be our friendies. And they want to give us their opinion of Our Andy.

No chance, mate, get lost!  I have your IP number - 95.122.192.159 - I know you are in Madrid, I know your service provider is rima-tde, and I know how to complain to them about you. You may be interested to know that your IP  is already on four spam blacklists. What naughty things have you been up to, Mr Torres, to be so blacklisted?


I can see from my logs that you were here at 05.59 this morning (that's my time, not your time, obviously!) and at 6.49, and again at 8.41, at 10.43 you made another comment (deleted! Ha! Ha!) then you came back at 11.30, and at 11.52, and at 13.19 - my, you really were desperate to see if we would react to you, weren't you?  - when you went right back to 2011 to read about the Leopard logo.

There, is that enough attention for you? Are you happy now? Has your IP provider been in touch with you yet?

Save your time, go away, don't come back. And leave Miss Fede's blog alone! (Yes, we know where you have been......)

Signed, The Schlecklanders.

5 comments:

  1. The FANS or one of the things that have always turned me off to professional sports.It seems a lot of them use their fandom as a excuse for bad behavior of all types.I find that I love cycling enough to ignore them.But I often want to say,"professional sport is for ENTERTAINMENT purposes,if it makes you so F@#!!%! unhappy why do you keep watching?!!
    Love your very funny upbeat blog,thanks!

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  2. OMG for one second I thought that the REAL Fernando Torres commented on this blog. Ok, I'd better have a nap.

    By the way, I wanted to give my view on Former Fans. You know that supporting a sportsman can often become much more than just supporting: it can lead to obsession and to a kind of feeling which is close to love(you know who I refer to). But the thing is, that you are in love with someone you don't even know, so you can fulfill your obsession only through imagination. You love him for what you think he is; then - from a word said in an interview or a tweet or a photo or whatever else - you realise that he is not what you thought he was. And you are disappointed.

    Some people just accept who foolish their behaviour was and become a normal fan, screaming out loud at races and - why not - going "oooh!" at photos. Others forget about their obsession and, for not being actually keen on cycling (or any other sport), they even give up following the said sport. Finally, there is the kind of Fans, feeling angry at their favourite sportsman for letting them down, who become Former Fans and pick up bad habits such as trolling and insulting. They do so just to hide the shame of being fan of a no-more-so-successful athlete.

    My question is: if they behave like they in cycling - which is supposed to be their hobby - how do they behave in life?

    I see the pointinglessness of my long long comment. Feel free not to publish it if you find it too melancholic.

    Your psychologist for a day - Alice

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  3. Hi Dustbunny, yes, that's very much what I think: I get really cross when I see such bad behaviour from "fans". And not just on the internet - don't get me started on the mountain-top idiots!

    Alice, thank you, is there a real Mr Torres, then? From the context, I gathered our troll was a football fan, but I can't stand football as a sport, there are just far too many hooligans, not to mention the overpaid, over-acting participants, who collapse in tears from getting a hack on the shin, whereas our boys cycle on with terrible injuries. And while wearing only lycra.

    I like your categories of fans: you have made an accurate assessment of them, particularly the Obsessives - (ha ha, yes, I know who you mean!) who fall "in love" and are then disappointed by their idol, having built up entire stories about them in their imagination.

    Also, the ones who fall "in love" with an individual, rather than with the sport, so they fade away when the "love" fades away. There have been many of them, and yes, sometimes I get a little sad when I remember earlier Schlecklanders, who never come here any more.

    (Of course, I assume that they are no longer interested in Andy, not that this blog has become so uninteresting... err......!)

    I also get a little sad to see some of the other Andy-fan blogs being neglected, where their owner has lost interest. Now, as we know, no-one knows for sure whether Andy - or any other sportsman - actually has time or energy to occasionally read their fan blogs, or whether they are at all interested in what we say about them, but you have to wonder how they feel about a blog about them, which has had no movement on it for over six months.

    To return to your points, Alice, I have a feeling that most of these appalling "fans" are actually meek and mild in real life. They hide behind the anonymous false names (bet that our troll got a shock when they found out how much we know about them!) and feel that they are safe, and can be as outspoken/rude as they wish.

    One of my greatest wishes is for the removal of anonymity on the internet: if everyone had to post under their real name and home town, my, just think how much more polite they all would be.

    Alice, you can be our psychologist as often as you wish!

    Coug
    Definitely one of the fans who accepts how foolish their earlier behaviour was, and who has become a real fan of cycling!

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  4. *waves, salutes, waves again a little too enthusiastically* I'm here. Have just been quietly cleaning the Schleckland ship decks. Rumour has it that the Captain is quite the task master. :-). Kat

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  5. Hey, Kat! *returns salute enthusiastically*

    You've done a great job on those decks, me hearty, you can have a swig of rum. I am indeed a black-hearted task master, arrr, but I know how to run a happy ship!

    Let's hope that Andy will be celebrating later on today, when LADA give Frankie their decision.

    Fingers crossed.

    Cap'n Coug

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